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something there beyond the realm of man

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you think you know the less you really

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all right I our side chatters as we

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continue to unravel the reality onion we

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find ourselves turning to the

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alternative four paradigms and

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possibilities that provide better

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explanations in areas the mainstream has

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steered us wrong and when we're talking

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about the sciences and our understanding

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of space and what makes up our reality

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one idea I keep coming back to is the

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electric universe in a nutshell it

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proposes that electricity not gravity

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per se is the primary operator in our

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universe and when you dig into the

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widespread implications of that and how

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it relates to many different aspects of

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the human story it can be quite

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compelling you might remember the show

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we did with David Talbott where he told

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us much about the electric universe

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model the plasma discharge patterns that

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would have been seen in the ancient sky

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and how this very well could have been

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the basis for ancient mythology and the

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symbols we see in many petroglyphs

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around the world well lucky for us today

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we have wal thornhill here the other

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half of the electric universe equation

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whose expertise is the scientific

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explanations for why the electric

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universe model makes the most sense

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while received a degree in physics at

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Melbourne University in 1964 and began

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postgraduate studies with Professor

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Victor hoppers upper atmosphere research

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group and he's been studying these

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things ever since he's the co-author of

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the books the electric universe and

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Thunderbolts of the Gods both with David

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Talbott as well as the co-founder of the

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Thunderbolts project the main hub for

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all things electric universe and he's

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given several impressive lectures and

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presentations on the topic as well it's

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an honor and a pleasure and I can't wait

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to dive into it while my man

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welcome to the higher side thanks very

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much Greg yeah thanks for doing it I do

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find all the things on David's side of

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the coin to be very interesting I think

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the case is strong for plasma discharge

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displays in the ancient sky being a

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major influence on the people of that

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day and their stories we refer to as

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mythology but if the science isn't there

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to support it then it all kind of falls

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flat so I'm anxious to hear the case

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made from your perspective and I guess

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to start we should probably give the

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people a bit of a refresher so can you

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define the electric universe paradigm

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for us and maybe contrast it with the

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conventional views how do you typically

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break people in well I think the thing

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to remember is and just goes back to the

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fact that we're not really taught the

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history of science is just a

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a story which makes us look good mm-hmm

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but if you go back and look at what some

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of the great names in the past were

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sayings they actually were intuitively

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sensing the fact that electricity played

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the major role in people you know like

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Newton and Faraday Faraday himself felt

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that the electric force would explain

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gravity eventually and he said it would

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be a breakthrough of you know

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unimaginable scope mm-hmm and I think

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he's quite right the the way I came to

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it was reading Velikovsky's worlds in

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collision exactly the same as with David

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read that book and that inspired me to

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follow it up so when I was at university

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science undergraduate who was in the

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shelves of the anthropology section just

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pulling books at random off the shelf

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and reading the stories of you know the

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most ancient peoples on earth mm-hmm the

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stories just slipped off the page at me

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when I looking at it from Velikovsky's

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point of view which is that the solar

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system does have a recent history and

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that all of the reverence for planetary

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gods for the earliest civilizations was

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real though they weren't just making

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stories up the stories were about the

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activities of planets mm-hmm so I've

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on I began postgraduate work but by

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asking questions I was getting hostility

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satisfied with hmm so I decided that

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academia was no place for somebody who

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radical ideas and so I left and joined

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the computing fraternity with IBM first

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government I took the opportunity

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because I traveled the world many times

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to meet up with people who I felt had

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parts of the puzzle and that included

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Velikovsky himself

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and that was an important meeting

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because he very kindly accepted me and

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my family the three daughters and my

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wife at his home in Princeton Wow there

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was only six months before he died and

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of course he would have had no idea that

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I might pick up the baton that he was to

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drop shortly after and I was unaware of

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that fact too but the question I put to

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him was that because the major argument

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against him was merely one of stating

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that his work disobeyed Newton's laws

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what was it that we didn't understand

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about gravity hmm yes he had actually

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thought about that and written about it

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but he didn't want it you know broadcast

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normal matter you know the matter that

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us is made up of neutral atoms if they

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weren't we'd all be electrically charged

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and be zapping everything we touched but

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these neutral atoms themselves are made

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up of electrical particles you know

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positive and negative and they can't

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occupy the same space at the same time

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atoms slightly distorted by their

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surroundings by nearby atoms and the

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earth itself and when they distorted

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they form tiny electric dipoles which

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are electrically neutral however they do

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produce an electric force mm-hmm and it

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was that that he said explained how you

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can hold billions of tons of water in

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the atmosphere against the force of

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gravity because water droplets very

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small ones and much heavier than the air

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around them he said it's because they

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are dipolar molecules in other words

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they form tiny little electric dipoles

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defies gravity intake and that's why you

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can have those huge thunderstorms that

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a few minutes that too is an electrical

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effect in other words the lightning

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tiny advertisement in the Scientific

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American it was called the Journal of

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classical physics and the very first

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article talked about the structure of

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the electron now this is an idea that

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particle physicists haven't cottoned

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onto they think the electron is a

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fundamental particle but this guy

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decided that no it was a repeated

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pattern it was just all particles are

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made up of orbiting systems of charge

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have an explanation for both magnetism

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and gravity now with all of this kind

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these kinds of simple ideas in mind it

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was possible then to look at the work

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that David Talbott had done which was

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quite incredible really mm-hmm

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coming from another angle and we met up

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finally in 1994 when I rang him in

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Portland Oregon and said somebody here

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myth

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and he said well ever print I told him

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what I was doing and he said oh you got

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conference here in Portland when I said

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yes I have because I'd been spending

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some years in England with a group over

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there who were involved in post

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Velikovsky and studies if you like and I

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was being friends with some of the

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people working on the scientific aspect

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what he was showing were electrical

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effects between planets mm-hmm because

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he was showing venusaur in relationship

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to the earth and so on I caught up

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me but 20 years ago we met at the

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conference in Hamilton Ontario it was

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the first international Velikovsky

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meeting and I'd been invited to that by

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David's brother as it turns out so I

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how a combined story is far more

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powerful then either of us trying to

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work alone beyond the science and you on

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the reconstruction of the past history

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the euro so later when I camped on his

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office floor for a month in December

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while the water dripped outside

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international meeting in January 1997 it

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collaboration and we thought it would

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take off very quickly but it's taken an

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awful lot of work since then and I think

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time but now we've become as dave says a

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movement because you know qualified

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of people in all different different

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disciplines are joining us because this

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is a science which has no boundaries

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you can cross disciplines easily because

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you can see the connections once you

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have a big picture of how things seem to

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work everyone and everyone can

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understand it then they can see what

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their role could be in furthering what

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we're doing and that's one of the most

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exciting things about it now that we're

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actually doing a multibillion-dollar

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experiment in from Canada to show that

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the Sun is not what we think it is and

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the universe is driven electrically then

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stars are not thermonuclear

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gravitational bodies in fact when you

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look at the idea you realize just how

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desperate it was it was a desperate

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attempt by sight as a century ago to

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explain how the Sun could keep shining

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for so long without running out of fuel

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sky you know the old camp fire in the

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sky mm-hmm no idea that it had to be

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self-sufficient but the eunuch universe

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is one of connectivity everything is

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connected and in the case of stars

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by electrical filaments which connect

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everything they've only just begun to

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discover them radio astronomers have

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establishment was unwilling to give any

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credence to the data that had been

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collected and been analyzed

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by one radio astronomer in particular

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Jarrett Duchscherer who said that they

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could only be explained in terms of

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plasma electrical plasma effects that

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hasn't yet seeped in they found that the

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there are these filaments connecting

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stars in the galaxy and locally and they

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discovered that the boundary of the Sun

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with the galaxies is odd it wasn't what

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they expected it fitted none of the

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theories I think they're about 18

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different theories at the time and not

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one of them matched except mine so this

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is you know just sort of an outline of

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what the electric universe is about it's

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about simplification which is what the

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scientists of the 19th century were all

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about we lost that in the 20th century

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when we entered an age of neo

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Pythagorean the Pythagoras idea that you

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can explain everything in terms of

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geometry

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that's why Einstein or where Einstein

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went with his idea of what space and so

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on

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mm-hmm but that is a dead end because it

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describes things mathematics can

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describe things and it's very powerful

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though it's very useful but it can't

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explain things so you've got to have the

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correct ideas in place first and then

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apply the mathematics and then it's

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really powerful mm-hmm because you can

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see new ways of looking at things and

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get information that you would otherwise

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be inaccessible just by observation so I

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have been I'm afraid but now it's not

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the old exam question you know you have

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one out described the universe and give

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another example well said yeah I am so

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curious about it I do like everything I

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hear and I guess a lot of people might

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be surprised to realize that a lot of

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things they might consider to be quote

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settled science actually are just kind

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of ideas that really haven't been backed

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up in a lot of cases and I guess I would

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ask you what holes are there in the

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conventional model that the electric

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universe model fills in I should say to

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begin way that there is no such thing as

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settled science

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it's a lock see more on the electric

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universe uses quite heavily the

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peer-reviewed work of plasma

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cosmologists and plasma cosmologists

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have been working in the laboratory for

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decades since well almost a century ago

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looking at the effects of electrical

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discharges in a very thin gas or the

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vacuum of space if you like and they

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were able to show that you can explain

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great galaxies spiral galaxies their

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shape their rotation and so on without

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even using gravity when they put gravity

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into the mix it didn't it made no

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difference so it shows you that galaxies

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at that scale the electromagnetic forces

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of the electric currents flowing through

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the universe dominate so you can forget

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about gravity and that's why the

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gravitational theorists had to invent

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Dark Matter to make up the deficit in

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their model the deficit is there because

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the concepts that underpin it invalid so

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the question then is well what's this

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huge concentration of mass at the center

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of a galaxy if it's not a black hole

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well one of our team here steamed Steve

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brothers and other Australian has shown

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that the theory of black holes is

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actually full of mathematical holes a

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lot of meaningless terms are involved

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this is one of the dangers you look at

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the blackboard full of mathematical

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symbols unless the lecturer can explain

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each of those symbols in physical terms

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then there's no necessity to believe

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anything that comes out of that we'll

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let those equations so the plasma

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cosmologists show that the spiral arms

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of a galaxy are due to what's known as a

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plasma pinch effect and that is when the

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currents I should say flow through the

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universe like twisted pairs now

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engineers know that a twisted pair of

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wires is the most efficient way of

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transferring energy down to wires

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without loss and the University was

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their first they did it in the universe

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digital it knows how to do it nature

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never does things

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the hard way now when two of those

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filaments they're huge

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by the way when two of them come close

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to one another

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they interact magnetically and draw each

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other together until they form they go

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into a dance if you like up around one

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another and they pinch together and

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electric currents flow from the

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depending on which way you look at

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current flow flow the electron flows

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goes from the outside to the inside and

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so at the Centers of galaxies there's

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not a black hole there is a thing called

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a plasma focus a dense plasma focus it's

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where the plasma is densest and this is

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where you get all of these effects which

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look like a massive object however

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Einstein or the equation that is

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attributed to Einstein the equals

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mc-squared the one that everyone knows

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and nobody understands says that energy

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and mass are equivalent now in the dense

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plasma focus you have a thing shaped

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like a doughnut where the electric

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currents are twisted as tightly as you

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can imagine around one another and

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that's because of all the energy stored

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in that tiny little thing it appears

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extremely massive and its effect on the

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bodies around it appear as though it's

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extremely aggressive another aspect of

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these that the engineers know that

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worked on these plasma focuses and it's

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the sort of thing is that there's even a

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guy here in Canberra who had one in his

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garage here's a high voltage engineer he

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said another very easy to build anyway

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this tiny little donut becomes unstable

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at some point and it jax-ur jets along

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the axis and this is exactly what we see

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galaxies doing and exactly what black

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holes shouldn't be doing so it says most

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to suck everything in right so the

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evidence is just staring us in the face

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that the gravitational model of galaxies

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is incorrect that this comes down then

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to the human aspect in science and

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because of the specialization the way we

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train people these days their ability to

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see the big picture is actually disabled

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it's this concentration on detail

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like a chicken pecking first seeds in

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the dirt

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this concentration on detail that

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doesn't allow them to see the big

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picture right and as a well-known

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psychiatrist said this kind of left

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brain thinking is the kind that is

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required for survival on the part of the

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chicken but it's the right hemisphere

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which has a global it keeps an eye out

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so that the chicken doesn't become

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somebody else's dinner well it seems

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that the way we educate students these

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days in mathematics and that gives them

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the left hemisphere dominance which

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inhibits this ability to actually see

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what's right in front of them right so

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yeah we have to change our ways we have

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to change the way we train people the

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old classical model of Education where

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you did a bit of everything you know you

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did the arts as well as the sciences is

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actually the kind of thing that I think

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we have to return to and I think a lot

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of students would be happy with that - I

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agree yes separating everything has

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really set us back in a lot of ways used

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and in one of your presentations you say

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that the solar nebula model has no

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successful predictions to its name and

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that sounds like a pretty bold statement

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what exactly do you mean by that what I

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mean is it's never been shown how you

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form a single planet in the vastness of

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space from a disk you imagine where the

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earth is now there's a disk of dust and

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gas that stretches right around the Sun

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in our orbit there is no real way to

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make that dust coalesce to form a single

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planet and I mean I attend astrophysics

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seminars of the research school here at

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the National University and we had a an

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expert on the solar system and the

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planets and planetary formation and he

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admitted that you need a different

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theory for every planet now this shows

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that the model that they use that

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gravitational accretion model is in

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serious doubt but this is not admitted

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what happens is that people then

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using the left hemisphere approach again

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the left brain approach they go in front

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of their computers and they build models

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and try and make it work and they can

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make all kinds of assumptions it doesn't

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matter they just add more and more

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variables and this is one reason why the

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Big Bang model has more variables than

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it has actually information in other

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words it's a failing paradigm mm-hmm

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now with the planets the thing is that

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when the infrared telescopes in space

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began to peer into the clouds in deep

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space where stars are forming they were

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surprised to find that they're forming

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in strings like beads on a string now

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this is precisely what the plasma

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cosmologists said would happen because

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stars form rather like the galaxies

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forms in pinches along these electrical

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currents through the cloud so if you

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like you can imagine lightning in an

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earthly cloud well lightning can form a

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bead lightning if it's sufficiently

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powerful mm-hmm that means you get

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little bright blobs of weather channel

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breaks up and this appears to be what

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happens in those molecular clouds in

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deep space now there is no reason at all

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to suggest that only stars are formed in

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that pinch any bodies down to any size

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can form in that same event and this is

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precisely the electric universe model

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once the lightning fades if you like to

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put it that way gravity then does begin

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to take over and these bodies then

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assume partnerships and this is why the

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solar system looks like a fruit salad

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you know yeah there is no gradation of

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properties from the inside to the

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outside they're all individuals if you

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like like a blended family right and

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this is important from the view of David

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Talbots reconstruction of the recent

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history of the solar system and also the

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incredible amount of research and

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documentation that's been done by one of

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our colleagues duardo Cardona

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in his star series of books and if you

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want to know what the recent history of

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the solar system and the earth were and

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humanity was really all about

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I would recommend that you begin to read

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the writing card owners books they're

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very readable highly heavily documented

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if you want to chase things up and they

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make sense and it was his work that I

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used as a basis for trying to explain

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using the physics of the electric

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universe because I felt that if I

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couldn't do that then we we're in real

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trouble and I finally managed to do that

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just a few years ago I mean it took that

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long to figure out how you could

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actually form the strange things that

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were recorded and memorized and

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memorialized by the ancients it's it's a

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picture which our science fiction's any

550
00:23:31,550 --> 00:23:29,280
science fiction story but it can be

551
00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:31,560
supported about scientifically now and

552
00:23:37,460 --> 00:23:33,380
through the myth or historical

553
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:37,470
reconstructions right I definitely want

554
00:23:41,870 --> 00:23:40,080
to get into the radically different

555
00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:41,880
history of our own solar system as

556
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:43,830
described in this paradigm because it is

557
00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:47,760
so different than then what we're told

558
00:23:52,930 --> 00:23:50,130
but I'm curious you know talking about

559
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:52,940
the way that planets form that they are

560
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:55,650
formed somewhat suddenly and violently

561
00:24:00,830 --> 00:23:58,410
from larger bodies rather than slowly

562
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:00,840
formed over millions of years has a

563
00:24:05,540 --> 00:24:03,600
planet birthing as described in the

564
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:05,550
electric universe model ever been

565
00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:08,130
observed well one of the things that we

566
00:24:12,860 --> 00:24:10,710
observed with their own Sun this is that

567
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:12,870
it can eject billions of tons of matter

568
00:24:19,490 --> 00:24:16,290
in these coronal mass ejection events

569
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:19,500
they call them and at very high velocity

570
00:24:25,790 --> 00:24:23,490
so it's not true that you can't form

571
00:24:28,790 --> 00:24:25,800
objects by one giving birth to another

572
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:28,800
and in the electrical model of stars

573
00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:31,770
this is actually what we expect one of

574
00:24:39,140 --> 00:24:34,590
the reasons why stars have a cutoff in

575
00:24:41,030 --> 00:24:39,150
size the other aspect is that when we

576
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:41,040
look out into space and we look at other

577
00:24:47,540 --> 00:24:44,490
planetary systems and we see stars with

578
00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:47,550
rings of dust around them we assume that

579
00:24:52,790 --> 00:24:50,370
that is gravitational accretion the

580
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:52,800
electric universe says no no that is

581
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:54,960
actually the result of that star having

582
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:57,930
expelled material and it goes into orbit

583
00:25:05,090 --> 00:25:01,200
about it now in the process of expulsion

584
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:05,100
the forces involved generally give you a

585
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:07,170
backing up of the material so to form

586
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:09,810
one large object or maybe a couple of

587
00:25:15,530 --> 00:25:12,930
fairly large objects and they'll be

588
00:25:18,650 --> 00:25:15,540
embedded in a ring of dust initially and

589
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:18,660
it also we have the record of the

590
00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:21,090
ancients and their description of the

591
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:23,640
birth of venus and of course bert and

592
00:25:27,980 --> 00:25:25,650
venus is a very hot object as if it had

593
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:27,990
been born from a body you know from the

594
00:25:34,090 --> 00:25:30,810
bulk of the body right this fits the

595
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,100
electrical model that when i star

596
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:36,480
suffers a sudden change in this

597
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:38,490
electrical environment it has to adjust

598
00:25:43,010 --> 00:25:40,890
and the best way of adjusting is to get

599
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:43,020
rid of charge and that charge is in the

600
00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:45,450
form of matter the actual material of

601
00:25:49,610 --> 00:25:48,510
the star itself and says what it is an

602
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,620
electrical discharge

603
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:51,840
removes that material bit like an arc

604
00:25:58,220 --> 00:25:54,930
welder and you can weld against gravity

605
00:26:00,860 --> 00:25:58,230
you can weld uphill if you like hmm

606
00:26:02,450 --> 00:26:00,870
sorry about that no worries we were

607
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:02,460
talking about Venus and I was gonna say

608
00:26:08,270 --> 00:26:05,730
Venus is an interesting body in this

609
00:26:10,550 --> 00:26:08,280
paradigm because it seems like according

610
00:26:13,730 --> 00:26:10,560
to your akyuu never smaadahl it's the

611
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:13,740
youngest body in our solar system and

612
00:26:17,710 --> 00:26:15,450
also I guess I've heard you talk about

613
00:26:19,910 --> 00:26:17,720
some type of charge that can be detected

614
00:26:23,630 --> 00:26:19,920
between Venus and the earth if I'm not

615
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:23,640
mistaken yes that's so that's right the

616
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:26,310
Venus when when these objects are born

617
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:30,570
from I objected from a star it's the

618
00:26:35,810 --> 00:26:32,970
initial effect is rather like two gears

619
00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:35,820
meshing and you imagine in this case

620
00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:38,070
we're talking about proto saturn as we

621
00:26:43,460 --> 00:26:40,740
call it the brown dwarf star that became

622
00:26:45,380 --> 00:26:43,470
the planet certain right

623
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:45,390
in the process of adjusting to its new

624
00:26:48,010 --> 00:26:47,310
electrical environment and within the

625
00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:48,020
sun's

626
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:52,020
electrical neighborhood it had suddenly

627
00:26:56,660 --> 00:26:53,970
to change from being a star to being

628
00:26:59,540 --> 00:26:56,670
what it wasn't affected giant comet and

629
00:27:02,450 --> 00:26:59,550
comets we know spit material out this is

630
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:02,460
part of the electrical discharge effect

631
00:27:08,420 --> 00:27:06,000
and it was dramatic in the case of

632
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:08,430
Saturn because he got two stars fighting

633
00:27:12,370 --> 00:27:08,930
over

634
00:27:15,310 --> 00:27:12,380
power supply and satin of course lost

635
00:27:18,670 --> 00:27:15,320
because it was the smaller of body now

636
00:27:20,980 --> 00:27:18,680
when this body is ejected it has a

637
00:27:23,220 --> 00:27:20,990
slight backward kick and this explains

638
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:23,230
why Venus has this retrograde rotation

639
00:27:29,230 --> 00:27:26,330
hmm also it explains its great heat I

640
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:29,240
mean what are they say 800 degrees

641
00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:30,890
Fahrenheit or something at the surface

642
00:27:36,370 --> 00:27:33,790
it's it's enough to melt some metals

643
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:36,380
also it has a young surface now the

644
00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:39,650
standard idea was art so the resurfacing

645
00:27:43,450 --> 00:27:41,510
event must have occurred and the latest

646
00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:43,460
one is I must have been hit by some

647
00:27:50,290 --> 00:27:45,740
large body and everything melted these

648
00:27:52,930 --> 00:27:50,300
are just ad hoc stories with no no

649
00:27:55,270 --> 00:27:52,940
nothing to back them up at all just a

650
00:27:57,550 --> 00:27:55,280
story to try and cover up the cracks in

651
00:28:01,090 --> 00:27:57,560
the in the stone in the actual model

652
00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:01,100
itself but all of the facts fit and also

653
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:02,950
around Venus you've got this equatorial

654
00:28:10,330 --> 00:28:07,760
belt of elementary scars which were

655
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:10,340
recorded by the Magellan orbiter with

656
00:28:18,580 --> 00:28:14,720
its radar and those scars are exactly

657
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:18,590
the kind of phenomena you see in a an

658
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:20,480
electrical discharge they call lists and

659
00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:22,610
varied figures the kind of things to say

660
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:24,260
on a golf green where Lightning has

661
00:28:30,340 --> 00:28:27,530
struck the the flag and spread across

662
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:30,350
the grass it's that sort of spidery

663
00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:33,650
effect and you know thick atmosphere

664
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:35,630
like Venus has got that's precisely what

665
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:37,310
would happen to any lightning it would

666
00:28:41,770 --> 00:28:39,290
split up into a long thin filament

667
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:41,780
restricts and they stretch around the

668
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:43,010
equator which is where you would expect

669
00:28:49,870 --> 00:28:45,890
the main discharge to a struck so all

670
00:28:52,150 --> 00:28:49,880
the evidence is right there right yeah I

671
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:52,160
love this stuff and how does this model

672
00:28:58,330 --> 00:28:56,000
of planet berthing relate to planet

673
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:58,340
composition because we're told of how

674
00:29:02,830 --> 00:29:00,320
they're formed in gravity a planet gets

675
00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:02,840
denser and denser towards its core might

676
00:29:09,370 --> 00:29:06,070
this be different in any significant way

677
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:09,380
well if we go back to what I was talking

678
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:11,090
about the birth of stars and planets you

679
00:29:17,290 --> 00:29:14,000
know molecular cloud one of the very

680
00:29:20,860 --> 00:29:17,300
interesting effects that you get in that

681
00:29:22,390 --> 00:29:20,870
kind of accretion of a body is that the

682
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:22,400
elements are so

683
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:26,510
by the their electrical nature and the

684
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:27,919
fact that it is an electrical or

685
00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:30,710
electromagnetic event and you get all

686
00:29:35,799 --> 00:29:32,750
the heavy elements at the center and

687
00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:35,809
they're cool by the way they're not hot

688
00:29:43,419 --> 00:29:40,159
and they radiate their energy away as it

689
00:29:46,529 --> 00:29:43,429
secreting and you get the lightest

690
00:29:49,390 --> 00:29:46,539
elements like hydrogen helium at the

691
00:29:52,299 --> 00:29:49,400
outside so that becomes the atmosphere

692
00:29:54,970 --> 00:29:52,309
of a large body or oxygen nitrogen and

693
00:29:58,029 --> 00:29:54,980
things like that for smaller bodies so

694
00:30:00,760 --> 00:29:58,039
it this also tells us that stars do not

695
00:30:02,409 --> 00:30:00,770
have hydrogen at their center I mean

696
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:02,419
it's a crazy idea when you think about

697
00:30:07,330 --> 00:30:04,809
it that the lightest element there is

698
00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:07,340
would be at the core of a heavy body

699
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:10,760
like a star it's just not so the heavy

700
00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:12,320
elements are all there they made just

701
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:14,510
like planets and this is why when you

702
00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:16,640
look at a Sun SPOT it's dark

703
00:30:22,299 --> 00:30:19,240
beneath that glowing plasma sheath

704
00:30:24,130 --> 00:30:22,309
that's all it is it's the Sun of sums

705
00:30:26,169 --> 00:30:24,140
like a ball of lightning and we see the

706
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:26,179
like tops of the lightning which is that

707
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:29,450
granular effect and where it clears in

708
00:30:33,970 --> 00:30:31,130
other words a discharge goes straight

709
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:33,980
through from above down through that to

710
00:30:39,460 --> 00:30:36,710
the lower levels it's darker down there

711
00:30:41,889 --> 00:30:39,470
and you can actually see in some of the

712
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:41,899
best telescopic views that inside that

713
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:47,450
black sunspot is brighter smaller dots

714
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:49,250
in other words that's where that becomes

715
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:51,890
more filamentary so it all fits the

716
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:55,730
electrical model right and when you come

717
00:31:02,560 --> 00:30:58,610
back to Venus and that the ejection of

718
00:31:05,470 --> 00:31:02,570
matter from a star or a gas giant or

719
00:31:07,899 --> 00:31:05,480
anything like that will come from within

720
00:31:09,970 --> 00:31:07,909
the body so that you've got the heavy

721
00:31:11,889 --> 00:31:09,980
elements and it's interesting from that

722
00:31:13,899 --> 00:31:11,899
point of view that was only a year or so

723
00:31:15,549 --> 00:31:13,909
ago that it was discovered that a

724
00:31:17,889 --> 00:31:15,559
supernova seemed to have turned itself

725
00:31:19,419 --> 00:31:17,899
inside out and the scientists were

726
00:31:21,820 --> 00:31:19,429
puzzled you know why is why are we

727
00:31:24,659 --> 00:31:21,830
seeing these heavy elements first and

728
00:31:28,539 --> 00:31:24,669
the reason is that a supernova is a

729
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:28,549
really catastrophic electrical event for

730
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:30,890
a star this is what happens the interior

731
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:33,120
of the star gets shot out

732
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:34,559
and that's why you see the heavy

733
00:31:40,910 --> 00:31:38,490
elements first the yeah these supernova

734
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:40,920
explosions are where the star lights up

735
00:31:47,290 --> 00:31:43,050
and as bright as the rest of the galaxy

736
00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:47,300
for a short time is due to the fact that

737
00:31:53,030 --> 00:31:50,190
it's the circuit is suddenly broken near

738
00:31:55,850 --> 00:31:53,040
the surface of the star or even in the

739
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,860
sunlight has below and this is an effect

740
00:32:01,220 --> 00:31:58,320
that you see with on earth in those

741
00:32:05,030 --> 00:32:01,230
high-voltage transcontinental power

742
00:32:09,049 --> 00:32:05,040
switching yards if you open the circuit

743
00:32:12,049 --> 00:32:09,059
while it's live the all of the energy

744
00:32:14,980 --> 00:32:12,059
stored over there's 100 miles on several

745
00:32:17,270 --> 00:32:14,990
hundred miles of wire the energy stored

746
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:17,280
electromagnetically around the walk all

747
00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:19,110
collapses down on the point where the

748
00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:20,550
circuit was broken and you get that

749
00:32:26,540 --> 00:32:23,190
colossal arc that spreads up into the

750
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:26,550
atmosphere mm-hmm well you can imagine a

751
00:32:30,860 --> 00:32:28,110
star if it breaks the circuit what

752
00:32:34,430 --> 00:32:30,870
happens to it that's exactly what a

753
00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:34,440
supernova is interesting now you had

754
00:32:38,540 --> 00:32:37,020
mentioned material radiating away and

755
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:38,550
I've heard you say something to the

756
00:32:44,780 --> 00:32:42,090
effect that inside a planet gravity

757
00:32:46,790 --> 00:32:44,790
could actually be repulsive and that's

758
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:46,800
kind of an interesting possibility how

759
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:49,610
is that scientifically feasible yeah

760
00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:53,450
this is one of those problems where

761
00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:55,980
scientists repeatedly for thousands of

762
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,640
years have used a earth centric view

763
00:33:03,460 --> 00:33:00,960
first of all the earth was the center of

764
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:03,470
the universe and later on it was demoted

765
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:06,210
but we still have this tendency to see

766
00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:09,809
things from our little cocoon in the

767
00:33:14,390 --> 00:33:11,700
atmosphere on the surface of the earth

768
00:33:17,510 --> 00:33:14,400
right and of course it's obvious that

769
00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:17,520
everything that we let go of falls to

770
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:18,440
the earth

771
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:22,110
this comes down to the structure of

772
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:25,290
matter the structure of atoms and the

773
00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:28,410
electric universe also notes that there

774
00:33:34,299 --> 00:33:30,540
is a tendency on the part of nature to

775
00:33:37,790 --> 00:33:34,309
repeat patterns at different scales now

776
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:37,800
at the scale of the atom if you just

777
00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:41,130
suggest and this is what Velikovsky was

778
00:33:45,260 --> 00:33:42,600
hinting at although he didn't get that

779
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:45,270
quite that far if you suggest that the

780
00:33:49,970 --> 00:33:46,860
particles that make up the atom

781
00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:49,980
themselves little orbital systems then

782
00:33:56,450 --> 00:33:52,500
they too can distort and form little

783
00:33:58,130 --> 00:33:56,460
electric dipoles and of course in the

784
00:34:02,740 --> 00:33:58,140
case of a large body like the earth

785
00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:02,750
every atom in the earth and in us is

786
00:34:08,530 --> 00:34:05,640
attracted towards the center of the

787
00:34:12,250 --> 00:34:08,540
earth know the center of mass and

788
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:12,260
because the nucleus in each atom is

789
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,730
anywhere from two to four thousand times

790
00:34:19,129 --> 00:34:16,320
heavier than the electrons that are

791
00:34:21,340 --> 00:34:19,139
flying around it the nucleus of each

792
00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:21,350
atom is actually offset from the center

793
00:34:27,310 --> 00:34:24,270
now when you do that as I said before

794
00:34:31,419 --> 00:34:27,320
each atom becomes a tiny electric dipole

795
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:31,429
but that electric field within the atom

796
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:34,530
distorts the particles themselves and

797
00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:36,690
that's the important part is not the

798
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:39,030
atoms so much as the particles within it

799
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:41,609
that get distorted and the distortion is

800
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:43,530
minuscule this tiny

801
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:45,570
in fact it's so tiny that the

802
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:50,330
gravitational force is 39 powers of 10

803
00:34:55,970 --> 00:34:54,450
less than the plain electric force and

804
00:34:57,710 --> 00:34:55,980
this has been a puzzle you know why is

805
00:34:59,090 --> 00:34:57,720
gravity such a weak force well this is

806
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:59,100
the answer that we're dealing with the

807
00:35:04,849 --> 00:35:00,960
actual electrons and protons and

808
00:35:08,660 --> 00:35:04,859
neutrons that make up the atom in this

809
00:35:11,090 --> 00:35:08,670
effect now when you look at it that way

810
00:35:12,830 --> 00:35:11,100
you realize that hang on a minute

811
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:12,840
we're all attracted like a daisy chain

812
00:35:17,570 --> 00:35:15,330
effect you know like a whole string of

813
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:17,580
magnets you jostle them on a slippery

814
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:19,920
surface and they'll all join you know

815
00:35:24,530 --> 00:35:21,510
head to tail head to tail head to toe

816
00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:24,540
and this is exactly what the effect of

817
00:35:28,340 --> 00:35:26,190
gravity is all of the atoms in the earth

818
00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:28,350
and in US are aligned in the same way

819
00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:31,020
and so we are attracted very weakly to

820
00:35:35,810 --> 00:35:33,750
each other but this suggests it's a

821
00:35:37,849 --> 00:35:35,820
dipole force it's the same as a magnet

822
00:35:40,940 --> 00:35:37,859
we've got a plus and a minus or north

823
00:35:44,290 --> 00:35:40,950
and a south and that means that in the

824
00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:44,300
case of bodies of celestial bodies stars

825
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,260
planets asteroids comets moons you have

826
00:35:54,050 --> 00:35:51,119
one pole facing outwards and it's the

827
00:35:56,090 --> 00:35:54,060
same pole in everybody and on the inside

828
00:36:00,110 --> 00:35:56,100
of the body is the opposite pole which

829
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:00,120
is resisting compression by gravity

830
00:36:06,020 --> 00:36:02,250
it suggests that you can't actually have

831
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:06,030
holo celestial bodies very interesting

832
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:10,650
yes where I'm actually working on this

833
00:36:16,070 --> 00:36:13,650
topic with some other scientists to try

834
00:36:18,140 --> 00:36:16,080
and figure out what the magnitude of the

835
00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:18,150
effect is what the possibilities are is

836
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:21,960
concerning the structure of the earth of

837
00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:23,910
the Sun because it means that you do not

838
00:36:28,430 --> 00:36:26,760
have infinite compression from gravity

839
00:36:30,620 --> 00:36:28,440
which is required by the Big Bang model

840
00:36:33,020 --> 00:36:30,630
to make black holes and neutron stars

841
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:33,030
and all the other exotic ideas they've

842
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:34,800
come up with in an effort to create a

843
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:37,680
lot of mass in a very small space as I

844
00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:39,540
said before the plasma cosmologists got

845
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:41,550
rid of that necessity the electric

846
00:36:46,610 --> 00:36:42,810
universe points out there is an

847
00:36:48,530 --> 00:36:46,620
impossibility it takes you back to the

848
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:48,540
kind of science that engineers like

849
00:36:54,590 --> 00:36:50,930
because they can see how it works yeah

850
00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:54,600
hmm yeah that's really awesome that

851
00:36:58,850 --> 00:36:56,910
you're diving into that and I know

852
00:37:00,680 --> 00:36:58,860
you're probably more on top of this than

853
00:37:04,190 --> 00:37:00,690
most people but I've heard you reference

854
00:37:06,110 --> 00:37:04,200
some of the semi recent seismic data on

855
00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:06,120
the earth what is the latest seismic

856
00:37:10,610 --> 00:37:08,520
data show well it's just something that

857
00:37:12,740 --> 00:37:10,620
I've begun investigating welcome to

858
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:12,750
position to make any bold statements

859
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:15,410
about their affair it's just that

860
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:19,260
they're the center of the earth of the

861
00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:22,050
seismic the deep seismic signals that

862
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:25,020
are supposed to approach the center of

863
00:37:30,830 --> 00:37:29,010
the earth do show anomalies and I would

864
00:37:32,990 --> 00:37:30,840
expect that but I haven't gone into

865
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,000
enough to be able to explain it just yet

866
00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:35,520
and be confident of the explanation but

867
00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:37,740
certainly this has to be looked at from

868
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:39,990
a completely different point of view the

869
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:42,450
idea that the matter inside the earth is

870
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:44,490
super compressed all the geological

871
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:46,710
laboratories who have used these diamond

872
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:48,930
dangles and that to recreate the

873
00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:51,410
conditions inside the earth are actually

874
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:55,980
mistaken it I mean this view of gravity

875
00:38:03,830 --> 00:38:00,720
has a tremendous impact our thinking

876
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:03,840
about the rest of the universe yes and

877
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:07,010
that ties in with the work of the

878
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:10,110
modern-day Galileo he was dubbed Hilton

879
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:10,970
up

880
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:13,010
who also came to the conclusion that

881
00:38:19,420 --> 00:38:16,010
gravity on a galactic scale and

882
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:19,430
interstellar scale must be repulsive not

883
00:38:23,890 --> 00:38:21,890
attractive and that is a rather

884
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,900
heretical idea until you look back and

885
00:38:28,450 --> 00:38:25,760
you see that in history even Newton

886
00:38:32,290 --> 00:38:28,460
considered the idea there was a chap who

887
00:38:35,710 --> 00:38:32,300
was contemporary who came up with it and

888
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:35,720
Nicholas party Oded we a that you never

889
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:38,410
hear of and then a later chapter

890
00:38:44,290 --> 00:38:41,330
Frenchman Lesage came up with a similar

891
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:44,300
idea but in each case they were looking

892
00:38:49,780 --> 00:38:47,090
at something particles of something

893
00:38:51,220 --> 00:38:49,790
impinging from all directions and when

894
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:51,230
you have two bodies shielding one

895
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:53,210
another by being close together from

896
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:55,610
particles from a certain direction it

897
00:38:59,650 --> 00:38:58,010
gave the effect of holding them in place

898
00:39:04,980 --> 00:38:59,660
even though they were repelling one

899
00:39:07,090 --> 00:39:04,990
another so I mean this is important okay

900
00:39:08,530 --> 00:39:07,100
fundamentally important from the view of

901
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:08,540
cosmology because when you think about

902
00:39:15,010 --> 00:39:11,690
it the Big Bang is essentially

903
00:39:17,770 --> 00:39:15,020
completely unbalanced you've got an

904
00:39:19,420 --> 00:39:17,780
explosion and then you've got collapses

905
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:19,430
and collisions that's always got to work

906
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:22,400
with that what helton opsworks showed is

907
00:39:27,370 --> 00:39:24,560
that the universe is not expanding and

908
00:39:28,930 --> 00:39:27,380
he showed that definitively and so he

909
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:28,940
said there must be something that holds

910
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:31,310
these bodies the galaxies and stars

911
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:34,010
apart so he was looking into this

912
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:36,800
problem Lesage type gravity as it was

913
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:39,680
called repulsive gravity but there was

914
00:39:45,490 --> 00:39:41,810
no satisfactory answer until the

915
00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:45,500
electric universe model suggests that it

916
00:39:50,650 --> 00:39:48,590
is repulsive so gravity is long-range

917
00:39:52,330 --> 00:39:50,660
repulsive short-range attractive if

918
00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:52,340
you're close to a body all of the atoms

919
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:54,140
in your body respond to that body and

920
00:39:58,750 --> 00:39:56,930
are attracted to it once you get beyond

921
00:40:01,870 --> 00:39:58,760
the sphere of influence of that body

922
00:40:04,030 --> 00:40:01,880
then you are being repelled by

923
00:40:06,580 --> 00:40:04,040
everything else it gives you an idea

924
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:06,590
that the sorts of things that Velikovsky

925
00:40:11,590 --> 00:40:08,930
was suggesting happened in the solar

926
00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:11,600
system which under Newton's theory of

927
00:40:17,620 --> 00:40:14,870
course seemed impossible actually

928
00:40:19,150 --> 00:40:17,630
possible you know bodies don't collide

929
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:19,160
with one another they try and avoid one

930
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:22,400
another which means that it changes the

931
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:23,280
whole game

932
00:40:29,420 --> 00:40:26,370
and raises the odds in Velikovsky's

933
00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:29,430
favor by an enormous amount right well

934
00:40:33,170 --> 00:40:31,800
summarized and let's get into some of

935
00:40:35,630 --> 00:40:33,180
those radical changes that may have

936
00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:35,640
taken place in our own solar system as a

937
00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:37,140
guideline for some of this I guess the

938
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,630
cliffnotes of our solar system history

939
00:40:44,570 --> 00:40:41,760
is that initially the Earth and Mars

940
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:44,580
were rotating around Saturn the system

941
00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:46,650
changed spectacularly when it

942
00:40:53,420 --> 00:40:49,590
encountered the Sun and then we have

943
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:53,430
that axial column of satellites that was

944
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:55,410
formed that's kind of described in

945
00:40:58,820 --> 00:40:57,450
Thunderbolts of the Gods I guess you've

946
00:41:02,360 --> 00:40:58,830
also described it in a previous

947
00:41:04,370 --> 00:41:02,370
presentation as a kabob kind of set up

948
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:04,380
that's all she's Kubo I like that

949
00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:07,170
visualization but how did we get from

950
00:41:11,660 --> 00:41:09,390
there to here because it seems like such

951
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:11,670
a radical change I mean it's probably

952
00:41:15,620 --> 00:41:14,220
pretty extreme and hard to fathom for a

953
00:41:17,690 --> 00:41:15,630
lot of people who are who are used to

954
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:17,700
thinking about things conventionally yes

955
00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:19,920
can you walk us through how we got from

956
00:41:23,780 --> 00:41:22,140
a situation where Earth and Mars were

957
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:23,790
rotating around Saturn to this

958
00:41:34,370 --> 00:41:29,730
shish-kebab like configuration okay I my

959
00:41:37,790 --> 00:41:34,380
view is that we were satellites of a

960
00:41:39,350 --> 00:41:37,800
brown dwarf star now in recent years

961
00:41:43,970 --> 00:41:39,360
astronomers have come around to the idea

962
00:41:45,950 --> 00:41:43,980
that life is possibly more likely around

963
00:41:47,780 --> 00:41:45,960
brown dwarf stars you know planets are

964
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:47,790
orbiting very closely to a brown dwarf

965
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:52,890
star this appears to have been the case

966
00:41:57,620 --> 00:41:54,900
according to all of the information we

967
00:42:00,110 --> 00:41:57,630
can glean from the most ancient

968
00:42:02,780 --> 00:42:00,120
recollections you know the stories of

969
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:02,790
the purple dawn of creation and so on in

970
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:04,290
other words the light in the sky was

971
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:06,780
different and this is precisely the

972
00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:09,510
color I would expect if we had been a

973
00:42:14,660 --> 00:42:12,750
satellite of a brown dwarf the other

974
00:42:16,940 --> 00:42:14,670
thing is that the electrical model of

975
00:42:20,740 --> 00:42:16,950
stars which encompasses all stars

976
00:42:23,330 --> 00:42:20,750
without exception shows that red stars

977
00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:23,340
stars that are having difficulty

978
00:42:27,530 --> 00:42:25,500
collecting enough charge from their

979
00:42:31,010 --> 00:42:27,540
surroundings and what happens in a

980
00:42:33,450 --> 00:42:31,020
plasma then is that the the electrode

981
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:33,460
the anode in this case the star

982
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:36,720
expands its sphere of influence and

983
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:40,240
appears as a red glowing shell because

984
00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:44,130
what happens is the electrons involved

985
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:46,329
accelerated in this electric field the

986
00:42:50,099 --> 00:42:48,160
bigger the shell the stronger the

987
00:42:54,690 --> 00:42:50,109
electric field and the more this glow

988
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:54,700
occurs now that glow would occur kind of

989
00:42:59,010 --> 00:42:56,650
at the boundaries of what we call the

990
00:43:00,720 --> 00:42:59,020
magneto sphere or astronomers call a

991
00:43:03,329 --> 00:43:00,730
magnetosphere which is actually an

992
00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:03,339
electrical plasma sheath within which

993
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:05,230
the magnetic field of the object is

994
00:43:11,490 --> 00:43:08,770
trapped now with a brown with a red star

995
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:11,500
or a brown dwarf star it's actually

996
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,690
quite huge for instance of Jupiter's

997
00:43:17,609 --> 00:43:15,520
magnetosphere was lit up it would appear

998
00:43:20,490 --> 00:43:17,619
the size of the full moon in the sky at

999
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:20,500
opposition and yet it's so distant and

1000
00:43:24,270 --> 00:43:22,480
just looks like a point of light so the

1001
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:24,280
Oh naked eye but it would appear as big

1002
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:27,130
as the moon or as big as the Sun if you

1003
00:43:33,210 --> 00:43:30,490
like mm-hmm now if you were to look at

1004
00:43:35,130 --> 00:43:33,220
Jupiter then all of its inner moons and

1005
00:43:39,059 --> 00:43:35,140
so on would be orbiting within that glow

1006
00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:39,069
and this appears to be exactly where we

1007
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:42,040
and Mars were plus a whole lot of other

1008
00:43:48,930 --> 00:43:44,530
satellites presumably like Titan and so

1009
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:48,940
on right now when when I came across

1010
00:43:53,789 --> 00:43:51,609
that idea it also occurred to me that

1011
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:53,799
this is the most hospitable circumstance

1012
00:43:58,319 --> 00:43:56,290
you could imagine for life to form in

1013
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:58,329
the universe because it's like a cocoon

1014
00:44:03,569 --> 00:44:01,359
or a womb anybody orbiting within that

1015
00:44:05,579 --> 00:44:03,579
glow would it receive the same amount of

1016
00:44:08,579 --> 00:44:05,589
energy per square meter over the entire

1017
00:44:12,210 --> 00:44:08,589
surface of the planet and this explains

1018
00:44:14,730 --> 00:44:12,220
why it is that we had coal and dinosaurs

1019
00:44:17,970 --> 00:44:14,740
and so on living in the Antarctic and

1020
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:17,980
the Arctic Circle this is impossible you

1021
00:44:25,799 --> 00:44:22,170
know in our present circumstance the

1022
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:25,809
work of Rhoda Cardona showed that this

1023
00:44:30,839 --> 00:44:28,510
was it were fitted precisely with this

1024
00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:30,849
kind of story now the problem is of

1025
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,849
course that a star which has this large

1026
00:44:39,809 --> 00:44:36,160
glowing envelope electrical envelope

1027
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:39,819
when it meets a more bright star like

1028
00:44:45,809 --> 00:44:43,599
the Sun and enters its heliosphere which

1029
00:44:47,609 --> 00:44:45,819
is its electrical boundary then

1030
00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:47,619
all hell breaks loose because suddenly

1031
00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:51,940
the star no longer has this sheath so

1032
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:55,150
any planets inside would suddenly view

1033
00:45:00,209 --> 00:44:56,890
the rest of the universe for the first

1034
00:45:02,249 --> 00:45:00,219
time also the star itself would try and

1035
00:45:04,289 --> 00:45:02,259
readjust there was a new situation by

1036
00:45:06,359 --> 00:45:04,299
ejecting matter and that's precisely

1037
00:45:09,689 --> 00:45:06,369
what it did and in doing so we deal it

1038
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:09,699
up phenomenally it would it turned into

1039
00:45:14,789 --> 00:45:12,729
an ova what's known as a nova star that

1040
00:45:18,539 --> 00:45:14,799
suddenly brightens by many orders of

1041
00:45:20,459 --> 00:45:18,549
magnitude so it's what gave rise to the

1042
00:45:24,019 --> 00:45:20,469
stories of you know let there be light

1043
00:45:26,999 --> 00:45:24,029
that was the creation of our new

1044
00:45:30,299 --> 00:45:27,009
celestial system now the other thing is

1045
00:45:33,269 --> 00:45:30,309
too that in the sun's environment star

1046
00:45:36,329 --> 00:45:33,279
the the brown dwarf star switches from

1047
00:45:38,430 --> 00:45:36,339
being a star to being a comet and we

1048
00:45:40,499 --> 00:45:38,440
know that comets have what's called

1049
00:45:41,999 --> 00:45:40,509
non-gravitational accelerations and

1050
00:45:44,009 --> 00:45:42,009
that's due to the fact that its mass is

1051
00:45:47,549 --> 00:45:44,019
changing as a result of the exchange of

1052
00:45:50,609 --> 00:45:47,559
charge and it also occurred on the earth

1053
00:45:52,620 --> 00:45:50,619
to the gravity and the earth changed but

1054
00:45:55,289 --> 00:45:52,630
it said it then gets sort of sucked if

1055
00:45:58,170 --> 00:45:55,299
you like like a pip from the center of

1056
00:46:00,359 --> 00:45:58,180
its little system and it's satellites

1057
00:46:03,299 --> 00:46:00,369
left trailing behind rather like the

1058
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:03,309
breakup of Comet shoemaker-levy 9 we

1059
00:46:07,979 --> 00:46:06,640
that formed a string of objects okay but

1060
00:46:10,439 --> 00:46:07,989
we were sitting in the tail of this

1061
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:10,449
comet and that was an electrical

1062
00:46:15,150 --> 00:46:12,729
discharge effect and they've gave rise

1063
00:46:18,959 --> 00:46:15,160
to all of the fantastic imagery comes

1064
00:46:21,329 --> 00:46:18,969
down to us from rock art and so on which

1065
00:46:26,489 --> 00:46:21,339
looked like aliens or strange

1066
00:46:29,939 --> 00:46:26,499
I mean inexplicable art work they were

1067
00:46:32,759 --> 00:46:29,949
attempts to inscribe in rock in the most

1068
00:46:34,549 --> 00:46:32,769
difficult way you can imagine what they

1069
00:46:38,579 --> 00:46:34,559
were seeing in the sky as being

1070
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:38,589
something phenomenal and never to occur

1071
00:46:43,439 --> 00:46:40,930
again it was that was the real creation

1072
00:46:45,029 --> 00:46:43,449
story I mean had nothing to do with the

1073
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:45,039
creation of the universe that's a

1074
00:46:51,739 --> 00:46:47,529
nonsense right it had to do with the

1075
00:46:56,729 --> 00:46:51,749
creation of a completely new environment

1076
00:46:58,420 --> 00:46:56,739
now the adjustment on the part of what

1077
00:47:01,960 --> 00:46:58,430
we call proto Saturn

1078
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:01,970
was to eject Venus and that was

1079
00:47:07,299 --> 00:47:04,730
witnessed it was described exactly what

1080
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:07,309
you'd expect it was the worm or a Boris

1081
00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:09,530
you know the one that the snake that

1082
00:47:13,809 --> 00:47:11,510
swallowed its tail in other words it

1083
00:47:16,420 --> 00:47:13,819
formed a ring of matter around

1084
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:16,430
Saten to begin with but it too fell

1085
00:47:21,309 --> 00:47:18,710
behind and then became this radiating

1086
00:47:24,250 --> 00:47:21,319
star that Davis talks about David

1087
00:47:27,130 --> 00:47:24,260
Talbott in his work and Mars of course

1088
00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:27,140
was between us and this fantastic

1089
00:47:33,940 --> 00:47:30,940
apparition of Venus and poor old Mars

1090
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:33,950
unfortunately it was like a bobbing

1091
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:36,890
object exchanging charge between us and

1092
00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:39,650
Venus because it would get close to

1093
00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:41,660
Venus and vilius all mighty Thunderbolt

1094
00:47:46,990 --> 00:47:44,270
of the gods and Mars would change mass

1095
00:47:48,970 --> 00:47:47,000
and drop towards the Earth and then it

1096
00:47:50,859 --> 00:47:48,980
would zap the earth and they'd move

1097
00:47:52,839 --> 00:47:50,869
apart again it would oscillate up and

1098
00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:52,849
down the column and gave rise to all of

1099
00:47:58,329 --> 00:47:55,849
the stories of dwarves and you know the

1100
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:58,339
mother goddess and the baby returning to

1101
00:48:02,980 --> 00:47:59,839
the womb all sorts of things like that

1102
00:48:06,849 --> 00:48:02,990
but all of the inexplicable stories that

1103
00:48:08,799 --> 00:48:06,859
the global yeah right the Australian

1104
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:08,809
Aborigines in fact here have some

1105
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:11,410
remarkable creation stories which

1106
00:48:16,180 --> 00:48:13,970
describe the time when there were two

1107
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:16,190
suns in the sky there greater and the

1108
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:18,530
lesser Sun and one of them hid in a

1109
00:48:23,950 --> 00:48:21,049
hollow log which was the imagery of the

1110
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:23,960
plasma column between us and proto Satan

1111
00:48:29,380 --> 00:48:26,930
wow that's lose the other aspect of this

1112
00:48:31,569 --> 00:48:29,390
- one of the big puzzles when we talk

1113
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:31,579
about the formation of the planets is

1114
00:48:36,190 --> 00:48:33,710
Earth's water where did it all come from

1115
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:36,200
mm-hmm well the answer is that as a

1116
00:48:42,190 --> 00:48:39,920
satellite of a dwarf star it is both the

1117
00:48:46,089 --> 00:48:42,200
best place to form life but it is also

1118
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:46,099
the place where unfortunate outbursts

1119
00:48:52,089 --> 00:48:48,770
can occur on the part of your your um

1120
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:52,099
mother son if you like because brown

1121
00:48:56,740 --> 00:48:55,130
dwarfs are known to flare and but in

1122
00:49:00,250 --> 00:48:56,750
flaring they of course are ejecting

1123
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:00,260
matter and so you look at all the bodies

1124
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:01,490
in the solar system that have been

1125
00:49:07,420 --> 00:49:04,510
investigated so far they all have strata

1126
00:49:08,860 --> 00:49:07,430
they have layer upon layer upon layer of

1127
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:08,870
material

1128
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:13,970
so the earth and the other objects tend

1129
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:16,160
to have been built up the surface layers

1130
00:49:20,380 --> 00:49:18,770
have built up by events that occur and

1131
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:20,390
some of them are quite catastrophic and

1132
00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:22,370
of course our geological record shows

1133
00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:24,680
that we've had events in the past where

1134
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:26,390
most of the life on Earth was wiped out

1135
00:49:29,620 --> 00:49:28,310
and there's no good answer to that I

1136
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:29,630
mean the only answer that the

1137
00:49:36,370 --> 00:49:33,110
gravitational fears can have is one of

1138
00:49:38,350 --> 00:49:36,380
collision the Baughman move the various

1139
00:49:41,260 --> 00:49:38,360
and they talk about the dinosaurs having

1140
00:49:45,820 --> 00:49:41,270
been wiped out by a collision it's not

1141
00:49:47,770 --> 00:49:45,830
sufficient because dinosaurs today could

1142
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,780
not exist they could not lift themselves

1143
00:49:52,450 --> 00:49:49,280
off the ground they're just too heavy

1144
00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:52,460
all right you know just engineering wise

1145
00:49:56,350 --> 00:49:54,470
the ones with long necks wouldn't be

1146
00:49:59,470 --> 00:49:56,360
able to lift their necks because even a

1147
00:50:02,020 --> 00:49:59,480
steel girder with the weight that they

1148
00:50:04,450 --> 00:50:02,030
had in that neck and the head of the

1149
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:04,460
earth there's it would Bend under the

1150
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:07,520
under the weight so the Earth's gravity

1151
00:50:11,890 --> 00:50:09,530
changed now you can't do that just by

1152
00:50:14,380 --> 00:50:11,900
you know smacking things together of

1153
00:50:17,470 --> 00:50:14,390
course and it was fairly selective to I

1154
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:17,480
think the there's even talk now that the

1155
00:50:24,130 --> 00:50:20,450
heavier ones died out first well this is

1156
00:50:27,850 --> 00:50:24,140
the kind of thing you'd expect and also

1157
00:50:29,830 --> 00:50:27,860
the mega flora I mean we had huge trees

1158
00:50:32,460 --> 00:50:29,840
and ferns and things at the time and

1159
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:32,470
their plants that are adapted to

1160
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:37,520
infrared light so all of these things

1161
00:50:41,350 --> 00:50:39,890
tie together you know that this is the

1162
00:50:43,450 --> 00:50:41,360
reason that I'm fairly confident talking

1163
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:43,460
about it even when it sounds like

1164
00:50:50,530 --> 00:50:46,370
complete science fiction all of these

1165
00:50:53,710 --> 00:50:50,540
tiny aspects fit and if anyone wants to

1166
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:53,720
look at the story in the detail that's

1167
00:50:59,980 --> 00:50:57,130
required to check these things out I

1168
00:51:01,780 --> 00:50:59,990
recommend driving cardona's star series

1169
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:01,790
which are available on our website of

1170
00:51:07,090 --> 00:51:04,210
course it's under bolts dot info mm-hmm

1171
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:07,100
perfect and that brings up a curious

1172
00:51:12,130 --> 00:51:09,920
question because you talked about us

1173
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:12,140
having memories of these massive changes

1174
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:14,480
in the human record does this model

1175
00:51:18,460 --> 00:51:16,610
affect the way we should think about the

1176
00:51:20,380 --> 00:51:18,470
age of things like the earth and the

1177
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:20,390
solar system the galaxy and even the

1178
00:51:25,660 --> 00:51:22,170
universe itself

1179
00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:25,670
absolutely that's a good question the

1180
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:28,440
radioactive dating was graphed with both

1181
00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:30,510
hands by geologists when it became

1182
00:51:34,940 --> 00:51:32,099
available because it allowed them to

1183
00:51:36,890 --> 00:51:34,950
become not just the descriptive science

1184
00:51:38,829 --> 00:51:36,900
but what they thought hard science

1185
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:38,839
because they could put numbers on things

1186
00:51:44,690 --> 00:51:41,730
but unfortunately and this is the case

1187
00:51:46,579 --> 00:51:44,700
when you have specialization each group

1188
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:46,589
of specialists mislead the others as to

1189
00:51:51,289 --> 00:51:48,510
the extent of their understanding and

1190
00:51:54,109 --> 00:51:51,299
knowledge the astronomers misled the

1191
00:51:57,259 --> 00:51:54,119
particle physicists who looked at the

1192
00:51:59,960 --> 00:51:57,269
half-lives of radioactive elements by

1193
00:52:02,299 --> 00:51:59,970
saying you know the solar system was

1194
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:02,309
four and a half billion years old they

1195
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:04,910
don't know that that's just an estimate

1196
00:52:16,279 --> 00:52:12,799
the geologist I was sorry the particle

1197
00:52:19,460 --> 00:52:16,289
physicist then led the geologists into

1198
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:19,470
thinking that their radioactive decay

1199
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:22,049
rates fixed in other words you've put it

1200
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:23,849
in a book of standards you know the

1201
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,529
half-life of this element is so many

1202
00:52:30,589 --> 00:52:28,319
million years without any thought to the

1203
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:30,599
actual mechanism because in particle

1204
00:52:35,809 --> 00:52:33,410
physics there is no explanation for

1205
00:52:37,789 --> 00:52:35,819
radioactive decay it is just a

1206
00:52:39,380 --> 00:52:37,799
statistical thing you know that

1207
00:52:41,930 --> 00:52:39,390
something is your work out in the

1208
00:52:45,620 --> 00:52:41,940
laboratory and then assume that this is

1209
00:52:48,380 --> 00:52:45,630
a universal constant it's not there's

1210
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:48,390
plenty of evidence that radioactive

1211
00:52:52,609 --> 00:52:50,880
decay rates change and that it also

1212
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:52,619
comes back to another aspect of the

1213
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:56,250
electric universe but then the

1214
00:53:00,019 --> 00:52:58,079
assumption on the part of the geologists

1215
00:53:02,210 --> 00:53:00,029
is that the astronomers told them that

1216
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:02,220
the the solar system has been like

1217
00:53:06,529 --> 00:53:04,410
Newtonian clockwork for billions of

1218
00:53:08,089 --> 00:53:06,539
years all of the bad stuff happened

1219
00:53:10,370 --> 00:53:08,099
right up you know very close to the

1220
00:53:13,940 --> 00:53:10,380
beginning all the collisions and the

1221
00:53:17,660 --> 00:53:13,950
cretians and other kind of stuff because

1222
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,670
the radioactive decay dating method

1223
00:53:23,390 --> 00:53:19,920
relies on the earth having been a closed

1224
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,400
system if there's any disturbance major

1225
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:25,920
disturbance to the composition of the

1226
00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:29,250
material on the earth then the dating

1227
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:33,390
system is reset plus either broken or

1228
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:34,850
it's you know

1229
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:37,950
it hasn't been working for a while right

1230
00:53:42,410 --> 00:53:40,050
and that assumption of course when

1231
00:53:44,990 --> 00:53:42,420
Velikovsky came along he's work just

1232
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:45,000
showed that that can't be substantiated

1233
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:47,610
because he is evidence of massive

1234
00:53:56,090 --> 00:53:50,880
interference in the the biosphere of the

1235
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:56,100
of the earth so radioactive dating the

1236
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:00,000
radiocarbon dating also makes various

1237
00:54:05,690 --> 00:54:02,730
assumptions so that you have to be very

1238
00:54:07,730 --> 00:54:05,700
careful in using it but as for the long

1239
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:07,740
term dating at things like that when the

1240
00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:09,570
dinosaurs lived and so on you can

1241
00:54:16,730 --> 00:54:13,470
practically forget that well certain man

1242
00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:16,740
I love it and I guess our time is about

1243
00:54:20,570 --> 00:54:19,140
up amazing stuff there's so much more we

1244
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:20,580
didn't even get to hopefully we can do

1245
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:23,130
it again sometime of course David is

1246
00:54:27,650 --> 00:54:25,890
great at what he does but I think your

1247
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:27,660
side of things is more convincing for me

1248
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:29,370
personally so I'm glad that I could get

1249
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:31,200
you on before we go please remind people

1250
00:54:35,060 --> 00:54:32,970
where they can follow up on these ideas

1251
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:35,070
and find the best resources for digging

1252
00:54:39,350 --> 00:54:37,410
deeper into what you're doing well main

1253
00:54:42,050 --> 00:54:39,360
resource is thunderbolt

1254
00:54:45,110 --> 00:54:42,060
info there you will find ways of getting

1255
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:45,120
involved yourself as a forum there's

1256
00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:48,480
means of donating since it's a

1257
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:51,590
charitable structure also we have

1258
00:54:57,350 --> 00:54:54,930
regular pictures of the day with very

1259
00:54:59,600 --> 00:54:57,360
good commentary on the latest scientific

1260
00:55:03,050 --> 00:54:59,610
news from the electric universe point of

1261
00:55:06,140 --> 00:55:03,060
view and we have YouTube videos which

1262
00:55:08,420 --> 00:55:06,150
cover those things sometimes in a bit

1263
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:08,430
more detail and by a number of different

1264
00:55:16,460 --> 00:55:12,690
scholars who are now joining with us in

1265
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:16,470
this adventure and it's the greatest

1266
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:19,290
adventure I can imagine Amen man

1267
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:21,930
excellent well I do love what you're

1268
00:55:25,220 --> 00:55:23,490
doing keep pushing it you're one of the

1269
00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:25,230
great minds of our time man take care of

1270
00:55:28,940 --> 00:55:27,390
yourself out there thanks Greg for the

1271
00:55:31,940 --> 00:55:28,950
opportunity you got it

1272
00:55:33,890 --> 00:55:31,950
Wow guys wal thornhill dropping

1273
00:55:35,630 --> 00:55:33,900
knowledge like it's hot to the touch I

1274
00:55:38,030 --> 00:55:35,640
really do love this electric universe

1275
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:38,040
paradigm but I still have a hard time

1276
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:40,170
trying to walk some of my friends

1277
00:55:44,420 --> 00:55:42,570
through the idea of the Saturn Sun

1278
00:55:46,940 --> 00:55:44,430
switch they just look at me like I'm

1279
00:55:48,260 --> 00:55:46,950
crazy and I personally am still not

1280
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:48,270
really satisfied with

1281
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:50,250
the explanation of the transition and

1282
00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:52,530
how he manatee survived I've read the

1283
00:55:57,650 --> 00:55:54,780
books I've seen the documentaries walls

1284
00:56:00,320 --> 00:55:57,660
proto Saturn presentation is awfully

1285
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:00,330
good but it seems like a bit of a leap

1286
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:02,490
of faith and wishful thinking to me and

1287
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:05,250
I like the idea I want it to be true but

1288
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:07,200
for me there's just a little gray area

1289
00:56:11,930 --> 00:56:10,110
still but there's so much indoctrination

1290
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:11,940
and so much of our upbringing and

1291
00:56:17,570 --> 00:56:14,970
education channels the way we think so

1292
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:17,580
what can you do I am always pleased

1293
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:19,110
though when I have an intelligent

1294
00:56:24,290 --> 00:56:21,330
scientifically minded person leave the

1295
00:56:26,570 --> 00:56:24,300
door open for hollow planets I do love

1296
00:56:27,260 --> 00:56:26,580
that and I'm glad we got to it early on

1297
00:56:29,420 --> 00:56:27,270
again

1298
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:29,430
wishful thinking I can't claim with any

1299
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:31,710
certainty that the earth is hollow but

1300
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:33,210
for some of the legends and stories I

1301
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:36,450
enjoy to be believable there has to be a

1302
00:56:42,110 --> 00:56:40,170
scientific basis there somewhere even if

1303
00:56:45,140 --> 00:56:42,120
we're just talking about massive

1304
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:45,150
underground caverns rather than the

1305
00:56:50,930 --> 00:56:47,040
full-blown balls-to-the-wall

1306
00:56:52,850 --> 00:56:50,940
inner Sun extreme and see skeptics call

1307
00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:52,860
that confirmation bias is if I'm not

1308
00:56:57,290 --> 00:56:54,630
able to separate what I'd like to be

1309
00:56:58,790 --> 00:56:57,300
true from what the evidence seems is

1310
00:57:01,550 --> 00:56:58,800
most likely they're not mutually

1311
00:57:04,250 --> 00:57:01,560
exclusive and if I had scientist after

1312
00:57:06,620 --> 00:57:04,260
scientists say dude let it go the data

1313
00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:06,630
is pretty conclusive on this I would let

1314
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:09,240
it go but so many people smarter than me

1315
00:57:14,420 --> 00:57:11,130
think it could be possible Brooks Agnew

1316
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:14,430
Eric Dollard Dean Dominic de Lucia David

1317
00:57:18,410 --> 00:57:16,710
Talbott and wal Thornhill and even

1318
00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:18,420
Alexander Colt even leaves that door

1319
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:20,760
open I know we are dealing with a fringe

1320
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:23,970
subset of thinkers on THC but I think we

1321
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:25,770
get more yeas than nays which is

1322
00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:28,530
exciting and I know before this show has

1323
00:57:33,590 --> 00:57:30,900
even been up for an hour if you guys go

1324
00:57:35,150 --> 00:57:33,600
to the YouTube comments or the comments

1325
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:35,160
section on the higher side schatz

1326
00:57:40,460 --> 00:57:37,710
website I'm very willing to bet you will

1327
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:40,470
see comments that say I can't trust this

1328
00:57:44,810 --> 00:57:43,290
guy he's just another NASA shill he

1329
00:57:47,090 --> 00:57:44,820
doesn't see the truth about the Flat

1330
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:47,100
Earth I guarantee those comments will be

1331
00:57:51,740 --> 00:57:49,410
there and I can say that in this wrap-up

1332
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:51,750
because I doubt they even got this far

1333
00:57:55,250 --> 00:57:53,970
but we need a little bit of discernment

1334
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:55,260
with these kind of things and I don't

1335
00:57:59,480 --> 00:57:57,090
think wall can be dismissed like that

1336
00:58:01,340 --> 00:57:59,490
and it's obvious NASA is hiding things

1337
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:01,350
and manipulating people's thoughts and

1338
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:01,890
knowledge

1339
00:58:06,020 --> 00:58:03,690
about our environment but if I'm being

1340
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:06,030
genuine I think the secrets NASA keeps

1341
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:08,010
are much more likely to be covering up

1342
00:58:12,590 --> 00:58:10,410
the electric universe rather than the

1343
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:12,600
Flat Earth and I've seen some damn good

1344
00:58:16,850 --> 00:58:14,730
Flat Earth arguments Marty Leeds who I

1345
00:58:18,770 --> 00:58:16,860
love and respect has put out a few

1346
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:18,780
videos of his research and he's firmly

1347
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:20,970
in that camp now but when I think about

1348
00:58:25,250 --> 00:58:23,490
major areas of coverup and how they

1349
00:58:27,950 --> 00:58:25,260
could relate I see a clear picture

1350
00:58:30,830 --> 00:58:27,960
forming around torsion field physics

1351
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:30,840
which is this inner tube or doughnut

1352
00:58:36,260 --> 00:58:33,810
shaped field of energy that some say is

1353
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:36,270
the key to limitless energy well how can

1354
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:37,530
we complete the picture if we

1355
00:58:42,590 --> 00:58:39,450
acknowledge that a big part of the big

1356
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:42,600
conspiracy is energy grid control we can

1357
00:58:46,490 --> 00:58:44,880
start simple and take the Tesla piece

1358
00:58:49,130 --> 00:58:46,500
and fit that in there that he was

1359
00:58:50,750 --> 00:58:49,140
marginalized and suppressed then we can

1360
00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:50,760
take the UFO piece where they can't

1361
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:53,160
acknowledge UFOs because they use this

1362
00:58:56,660 --> 00:58:54,720
type of technology and there's a heavy

1363
00:58:59,150 --> 00:58:56,670
quarantine around anything related to

1364
00:59:02,530 --> 00:58:59,160
this energy disclosure then you have the

1365
00:59:04,850 --> 00:59:02,540
education system and NASA purposefully

1366
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:04,860
compartmentalizing Sciences so nobody

1367
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:07,050
puts it all together perpetuating CERN

1368
00:59:11,420 --> 00:59:09,510
and what they're doing holding people

1369
00:59:12,980 --> 00:59:11,430
like Stephen Hawking up on high as long

1370
00:59:14,780 --> 00:59:12,990
as he keeps talking about black holes

1371
00:59:16,820 --> 00:59:14,790
and gravity and leaving the electrical

1372
00:59:18,590 --> 00:59:16,830
component out of it and that's if he's

1373
00:59:20,990 --> 00:59:18,600
not just a literal puppet for the

1374
00:59:23,870 --> 00:59:21,000
reality shapers or were some advanced

1375
00:59:25,850 --> 00:59:23,880
sentient AI you know I used to file that

1376
00:59:27,770 --> 00:59:25,860
in with the creepy conspiracies that

1377
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:27,780
probably are a bit of a stretch but

1378
00:59:32,030 --> 00:59:29,610
let's dig a little deeper into this

1379
00:59:33,740 --> 00:59:32,040
Stephen Hawking thing think about the

1380
00:59:36,140 --> 00:59:33,750
influence in today's scientific

1381
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:36,150
community that Hawking has now if the

1382
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:38,850
mainstream paradigm is a lie or heavily

1383
00:59:43,820 --> 00:59:41,040
flawed in places where wal thornhill

1384
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:43,830
sees it why doesn't Steven if he's being

1385
00:59:48,020 --> 00:59:46,050
intellectually honest from that I get

1386
00:59:51,110 --> 00:59:48,030
the impression that he isn't he's a

1387
00:59:53,060 --> 00:59:51,120
god-like infallible Authority that's how

1388
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:53,070
he's treated that's the pedestal the

1389
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:55,710
system puts him on and so what you might

1390
00:59:59,570 --> 00:59:57,330
say well if they're gonna give someone

1391
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:59,580
such a position of authority in an area

1392
01:00:03,890 --> 01:00:01,680
like the forefront of modern science

1393
01:00:05,690 --> 01:00:03,900
will they really leave that up to chance

1394
01:00:08,420 --> 01:00:05,700
or would it be advantageous to have a

1395
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:08,430
vegetable of a man in a chair whose

1396
01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:10,290
speak & spell computer can be programmed

1397
01:00:15,500 --> 01:00:13,110
to say anything you might want it to say

1398
01:00:18,380 --> 01:00:15,510
oh how the elites mouths

1399
01:00:20,420 --> 01:00:18,390
must water over such a proposition but

1400
01:00:22,970 --> 01:00:20,430
are there any supporting facts well it

1401
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:22,980
turns out there might be do you guys

1402
01:00:28,310 --> 01:00:25,770
realize that he's seriously the person

1403
01:00:30,530 --> 01:00:28,320
who's lived with ALS the longest yeah

1404
01:00:32,660 --> 01:00:30,540
what a coincidence right I've looked

1405
01:00:34,730 --> 01:00:32,670
this up and several sources will tell

1406
01:00:37,940 --> 01:00:34,740
you that the great majority of the time

1407
01:00:41,230 --> 01:00:37,950
a person with ALS is diagnosed in their

1408
01:00:46,370 --> 01:00:41,240
50s and is dead within about five years

1409
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:46,380
Stephen Hawking is 74 years old so they

1410
01:00:51,110 --> 01:00:49,050
say here let me just read this it

1411
01:00:53,420 --> 01:00:51,120
basically hits all the points it's from

1412
01:00:55,610 --> 01:00:53,430
Newser calm which I've never really

1413
01:00:57,620 --> 01:00:55,620
heard of but this isn't the only site

1414
01:01:00,290 --> 01:00:57,630
saying these kind of things this is just

1415
01:01:02,690 --> 01:01:00,300
the most succinct it's appropriately

1416
01:01:06,340 --> 01:01:02,700
titled how has Stephen Hawking lived

1417
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:06,350
with ALS for 52 years experts call the

1418
01:01:13,340 --> 01:01:09,690
74 year old physicists long-term

1419
01:01:16,250 --> 01:01:13,350
survival extraordinary an ALS patients

1420
01:01:18,140 --> 01:01:16,260
life expectancy averages just two to

1421
01:01:20,990 --> 01:01:18,150
five years after diagnosis and only

1422
01:01:23,870 --> 01:01:21,000
about 5% make it past 20 years the ALS

1423
01:01:26,210 --> 01:01:23,880
Association notes but Stephen has beaten

1424
01:01:29,570 --> 01:01:26,220
the odds and lived with his motor neuron

1425
01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:29,580
disease for 52 years and no one sure why

1426
01:01:33,890 --> 01:01:32,220
though some experts suggest factors that

1427
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:33,900
may have increased his lifespan in

1428
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:36,330
today's Washington Post scientists also

1429
01:01:40,550 --> 01:01:38,250
don't know for certain what causes ALS

1430
01:01:42,830 --> 01:01:40,560
in general and are studying genetic and

1431
01:01:45,290 --> 01:01:42,840
environmental links the CDC notes yeah

1432
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:45,300
trust them but although the underlying

1433
01:01:48,730 --> 01:01:47,730
reasons for Hawking's long-term survival

1434
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:48,740
are unclear

1435
01:01:53,390 --> 01:01:52,050
scientists thoughts on it art quote he

1436
01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:53,400
is exceptional

1437
01:01:58,550 --> 01:01:55,920
neurology professor Nigel lay told the

1438
01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:58,560
British Medical Journal in 2002 I am not

1439
01:02:05,180 --> 01:02:00,720
aware of anyone else who has survived

1440
01:02:08,090 --> 01:02:05,190
with ALS as long now 2002 the guy said

1441
01:02:10,070 --> 01:02:08,100
that 14 years ago man you think with

1442
01:02:12,590 --> 01:02:10,080
Stephen Hawking's bright mind he might

1443
01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:12,600
apply it to something more personal I

1444
01:02:20,180 --> 01:02:14,910
guess he has no interest in why he's the

1445
01:02:22,490 --> 01:02:20,190
anomaly for ALS hmm okay okay what also

1446
01:02:24,590 --> 01:02:22,500
makes Hawking's case unusual is that he

1447
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:24,600
was informed of his illness so young the

1448
01:02:29,210 --> 01:02:27,330
average age for diagnosis is 55 though

1449
01:02:31,070 --> 01:02:29,220
Hawking's early onset may have

1450
01:02:32,780 --> 01:02:31,080
help them in the long run survival and

1451
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:32,790
younger patients is strikingly better

1452
01:02:37,970 --> 01:02:34,770
and is measured in many years in some

1453
01:02:39,980 --> 01:02:37,980
cases more than 10 oh well in some cases

1454
01:02:43,359 --> 01:02:39,990
people live more than 10 years so

1455
01:02:46,990 --> 01:02:43,369
Stephen Hawking living 52 years with ALS

1456
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:47,000
nothing to see here makes me wonder

1457
01:02:51,950 --> 01:02:49,440
so that's creepy and add fuel to the

1458
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:51,960
fire there was a time in 1985 where he

1459
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:54,090
was so far gone that doctors told his

1460
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:55,650
wife it might be time to shut off the

1461
01:03:00,260 --> 01:02:58,290
life support machines that would be when

1462
01:03:02,690 --> 01:03:00,270
he was in his mid-40s a much more

1463
01:03:04,790 --> 01:03:02,700
reasonable time for your average ALS

1464
01:03:06,530 --> 01:03:04,800
victim to die but he recovered and

1465
01:03:08,089 --> 01:03:06,540
promptly finished his book a brief

1466
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:08,099
history of time and the rest is history

1467
01:03:13,490 --> 01:03:11,130
right how lucky we are to have such a

1468
01:03:18,380 --> 01:03:13,500
brilliant scientific mind be so accurate

1469
01:03:20,030 --> 01:03:18,390
about space the universe and reality but

1470
01:03:21,470 --> 01:03:20,040
anyway I was in the middle of trying to

1471
01:03:24,620 --> 01:03:21,480
piece together a puzzle here you got

1472
01:03:27,650 --> 01:03:24,630
torsion fields free energy UFOs false

1473
01:03:29,359 --> 01:03:27,660
idols like s Hawks here and then you

1474
01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:29,369
have the shape of the earth itself as

1475
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:31,710
possibly a torsion field shape a

1476
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:34,290
doughnut basically a ball with holes of

1477
01:03:39,170 --> 01:03:37,050
the poles now I'm definitely speculating

1478
01:03:41,060 --> 01:03:39,180
but I see a through line between all

1479
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:41,070
these points that really make sense and

1480
01:03:45,290 --> 01:03:43,170
if I had to put my money on something it

1481
01:03:48,140 --> 01:03:45,300
would probably be that these are the big

1482
01:03:50,450 --> 01:03:48,150
secrets about space not that it doesn't

1483
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:50,460
exist and the earth is flat let's add

1484
01:03:56,510 --> 01:03:52,530
this pile to the idea of the firmament

1485
01:03:59,329 --> 01:03:56,520
that we are in a type of shell or bubble

1486
01:04:01,310 --> 01:03:59,339
a very popular idea for the people of

1487
01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:01,320
the ancient past and the people of the

1488
01:04:05,570 --> 01:04:03,839
Flat Earth community could the people in

1489
01:04:08,540 --> 01:04:05,580
the past have been trying to describe

1490
01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:08,550
this plasma bubble of Saturn is it

1491
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:10,140
possible that without the scientific

1492
01:04:14,839 --> 01:04:12,000
terms to explain it they call this

1493
01:04:18,050 --> 01:04:14,849
cocoon this envelope the firmament I

1494
01:04:19,970 --> 01:04:18,060
don't know but I could see it I do think

1495
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:19,980
one glaring hole here to be

1496
01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:21,810
intellectually honest and play devil's

1497
01:04:26,089 --> 01:04:23,849
advocate a bit about the electric

1498
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:26,099
universe and of course walls

1499
01:04:32,060 --> 01:04:29,880
explanations aren't bad or wrong but if

1500
01:04:34,310 --> 01:04:32,070
we really have this type of space

1501
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:34,320
observation we're led to believe we do

1502
01:04:40,130 --> 01:04:37,920
why have we never seen a system in the

1503
01:04:42,260 --> 01:04:40,140
formations described by the electric

1504
01:04:42,769 --> 01:04:42,270
universe model why don't we have one

1505
01:04:44,749 --> 01:04:42,779
single

1506
01:04:47,659 --> 01:04:44,759
example where we can look at it and say

1507
01:04:51,019 --> 01:04:47,669
see that planet in the plasma cocoon of

1508
01:04:53,509 --> 01:04:51,029
star to x1 1/9 Earth System was like

1509
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:53,519
that at one time you know there's no

1510
01:04:58,339 --> 01:04:56,130
examples whatsoever that Sobers me up a

1511
01:05:00,890 --> 01:04:58,349
bit on this topic I gotta be honest but

1512
01:05:03,229 --> 01:05:00,900
walls point is that we can't see through

1513
01:05:06,529 --> 01:05:03,239
these plasma envelopes okay that is a

1514
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:06,539
fair point I know it's difficult but we

1515
01:05:12,049 --> 01:05:09,089
can't find a single example anywhere I

1516
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:12,059
think that is what we need for me to

1517
01:05:16,489 --> 01:05:14,729
really be satisfied here and even if we

1518
01:05:18,799 --> 01:05:16,499
can't see through it we're told that we

1519
01:05:21,099 --> 01:05:18,809
see stars form and explode we've

1520
01:05:24,439 --> 01:05:21,109
identified hundreds of systems out there

1521
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:24,449
thousands have we ever seen one star

1522
01:05:28,969 --> 01:05:27,089
discharged to another that doesn't

1523
01:05:31,459 --> 01:05:28,979
require us to see through anything you

1524
01:05:33,439 --> 01:05:31,469
know but this is a process and like many

1525
01:05:36,349 --> 01:05:33,449
things we just don't have the smoking

1526
01:05:38,209 --> 01:05:36,359
gun yet and it's not a closed case so

1527
01:05:39,799 --> 01:05:38,219
don't think I'm [\h__\h] on the idea but

1528
01:05:41,719 --> 01:05:39,809
I do hope we find that type of

1529
01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:41,729
validation soon because I really want to

1530
01:05:46,159 --> 01:05:43,529
be sure about some of these things

1531
01:05:48,109 --> 01:05:46,169
great stuff though for me walls

1532
01:05:50,539 --> 01:05:48,119
scientific side of things is more

1533
01:05:53,209 --> 01:05:50,549
convincing than David Talbots mythology

1534
01:05:55,429 --> 01:05:53,219
and cave art side both important

1535
01:05:57,199 --> 01:05:55,439
complementary sides of the coin but if I

1536
01:05:59,390 --> 01:05:57,209
had to say what moves my needle further

1537
01:06:01,669 --> 01:05:59,400
it would be a show more like today's

1538
01:06:03,529 --> 01:06:01,679
love them both though and I hope you

1539
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:03,539
find it interesting along with all the

1540
01:06:07,219 --> 01:06:05,130
implications and threads that I think

1541
01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:07,229
something like this ties together but

1542
01:06:11,779 --> 01:06:09,599
that is going to be it for the month we

1543
01:06:14,449 --> 01:06:11,789
made it and I did a better job with the

1544
01:06:16,729 --> 01:06:14,459
timing of episodes I think and really

1545
01:06:18,949 --> 01:06:16,739
not a weak spot to be seen in this

1546
01:06:22,009 --> 01:06:18,959
month's lineup in my honest opinion I

1547
01:06:24,469 --> 01:06:22,019
don't always achieve my vision for the

1548
01:06:26,959 --> 01:06:24,479
show but if someone was asking what a

1549
01:06:29,809 --> 01:06:26,969
near-perfect month looked like to me it

1550
01:06:32,419 --> 01:06:29,819
would be something like April 2016 a

1551
01:06:35,390 --> 01:06:32,429
good diet and health-related show dr.

1552
01:06:37,339 --> 01:06:35,400
Richard Jacobi sugar and nerves then a

1553
01:06:39,709 --> 01:06:37,349
pretty unique show with Alexander Cole

1554
01:06:42,140 --> 01:06:39,719
t-pin and Sylvia even Noah translating

1555
01:06:45,079 --> 01:06:42,150
James Corbett and the Rockefeller oil

1556
01:06:48,229 --> 01:06:45,089
story a good conspiracy 101 refresher

1557
01:06:49,969 --> 01:06:48,239
gotta have it there edy Haslem with dr.

1558
01:06:52,459 --> 01:06:49,979
Mary's monkey in the history behind the

1559
01:06:55,789 --> 01:06:52,469
polio vaccine talk about a mind-blower

1560
01:06:56,450 --> 01:06:55,799
and wal thornhill with the scientific

1561
01:06:59,089 --> 01:06:56,460
side

1562
01:07:01,640 --> 01:06:59,099
of the electric universe the perfect

1563
01:07:03,859 --> 01:07:01,650
icing on the higher side cake I would

1564
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:03,869
say I mean that is a line up there's

1565
01:07:08,450 --> 01:07:06,210
many many guests I've had that I love

1566
01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:08,460
but if you're talking about the month by

1567
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:11,310
month package this one does it for me

1568
01:07:16,250 --> 01:07:14,250
diverse everyone has experience or

1569
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:16,260
evidence to back up their perspective to

1570
01:07:21,470 --> 01:07:18,690
a healthy degree I'd say everyone made

1571
01:07:24,740 --> 01:07:21,480
good convincing cases for their work big

1572
01:07:27,140 --> 01:07:24,750
thanks to all of them right give it up

1573
01:07:29,630 --> 01:07:27,150
and I'll have a little more to say in

1574
01:07:32,270 --> 01:07:29,640
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1575
01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:32,280
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1576
01:07:37,250 --> 01:07:34,710
Facebook page comes out on the first of

1577
01:07:39,890 --> 01:07:37,260
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1578
01:07:42,380 --> 01:07:39,900
show I got coming up in May as well as

1579
01:07:44,810 --> 01:07:42,390
my thoughts on the episodes we've done

1580
01:07:47,180 --> 01:07:44,820
and a couple other things but may

1581
01:07:49,609 --> 01:07:47,190
another lineup I think is going to be

1582
01:07:51,859 --> 01:07:49,619
very solid there's one of a little

1583
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:51,869
sketchy on you know I try to shoot you

1584
01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:54,570
straight so there is one I have concerns

1585
01:07:59,060 --> 01:07:56,760
on the publisher sent me the book and I

1586
01:07:59,930 --> 01:07:59,070
was kind of like yeah but I think we can

1587
01:08:03,530 --> 01:07:59,940
make it interesting

1588
01:08:06,410 --> 01:08:03,540
I promise so trust me I try not to let

1589
01:08:08,359 --> 01:08:06,420
you down too often so sign up for plus

1590
01:08:10,339 --> 01:08:08,369
if you haven't five extra hours with

1591
01:08:12,380 --> 01:08:10,349
these guys on top of the archives should

1592
01:08:14,089 --> 01:08:12,390
be well worth it but if you can't do

1593
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:14,099
that maybe just share the show or give

1594
01:08:18,410 --> 01:08:16,799
it a review as a showing of appreciation

1595
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:18,420
or just keep listening that's really the

1596
01:08:23,059 --> 01:08:20,489
important thing this is my bread and

1597
01:08:25,490 --> 01:08:23,069
butter but I'm not here to talk your ear

1598
01:08:26,809 --> 01:08:25,500
off about things you already know so

1599
01:08:28,729 --> 01:08:26,819
with that I'm gonna get out of here and

1600
01:08:31,220 --> 01:08:28,739
I now declare this meeting of the

1601
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:31,230
midnight society closed your move

1602
01:08:35,650 --> 01:08:33,120
Stephen Hawking string pullers and

1603
01:08:38,130 --> 01:08:35,660
sealers of the secret sciences you're

1604
01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:38,140
buckin

1605
01:08:44,140 --> 01:08:41,510
lucid dreams are so vivid cuz you go to

1606
01:08:47,170 --> 01:08:44,150
bed at 7:00 and your brain comes alive

1607
01:08:49,809 --> 01:08:47,180
cuz your hatred 9:00 to 5:00 you wake up

1608
01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:49,819
with a dread and make sure your cats are

1609
01:08:54,610 --> 01:08:52,310
fed did your brain talk to a ghost who

1610
01:08:58,690 --> 01:08:54,620
moved your coffee and a toast as you

1611
01:09:01,300 --> 01:08:58,700
listen to the higher side chats you get

1612
01:09:03,970 --> 01:09:01,310
to your desk and your boss says it's a

1613
01:09:06,430 --> 01:09:03,980
mess and your soul slowly goes to a

1614
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:06,440
place when nothing grows when you think

1615
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:11,050
he's not around you insert a SETI sound

1616
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:14,210
vom says turn it down and you say it's

1617
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:18,530
just the higher side chats oh do you

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think you're being invited to Bohemian

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01:09:29,950 --> 01:09:26,300
Grove to a Bilderberg Club oh do you

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01:09:35,710 --> 01:09:29,960
think could be invited by Rasta to a

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01:09:41,260 --> 01:09:38,079
to the center of the

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to the Marianas Trench your teeth begin

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01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:45,469
to clench from the sulphureus stench the

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01:09:53,770 --> 01:09:49,520
mask you give and ours and fit cuz

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01:09:59,240 --> 01:09:56,690
starting today you'll make plans to get

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01:10:02,030 --> 01:09:59,250
away there's no one to hold you down and

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01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:02,040
the what if start to drown when you wake

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01:10:07,730 --> 01:10:04,890
to the glare of a co fluorescent stare

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01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:07,740
and the light winks at you cuz its life

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01:10:13,940 --> 01:10:10,110
is almost through but it's holding gone

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01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:13,950
to quit time just like you it's time for

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01:10:38,110 --> 01:10:36,550
hey guys thanks for listening to the

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01:10:40,450 --> 01:10:38,120
first hour of the higher side chats

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01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:40,460
podcast with me Greg Carl wood if you

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01:10:44,890 --> 01:10:42,530
don't know there is a second hour to all

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01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:44,900
the episodes we do around here generally

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01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:46,610
we're able to get a lot deeper into the

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01:10:50,590 --> 01:10:48,320
topics and ideas that a guest is about

1639
01:10:53,470 --> 01:10:50,600
so if you enjoyed what you've heard from

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01:10:55,660 --> 01:10:53,480
THC for free consider signing up at the

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01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:55,670
higher side chats plus com to get the

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01:10:59,950 --> 01:10:57,650
second hour of the 5 shows I put

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01:11:01,870 --> 01:10:59,960
together each month I never really

1644
01:11:03,580 --> 01:11:01,880
wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast

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01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:03,590
but I really hate the idea of spending

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01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:05,570
airtime promoting some product that's

1647
01:11:09,310 --> 01:11:07,670
completely unrelated and telling you the

1648
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:09,320
best way to support the show is to buy

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01:11:13,780 --> 01:11:12,110
an audio book or new underwear by mail

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01:11:16,330 --> 01:11:13,790
or something crazy like that so instead

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01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:16,340
if you like the show double your time

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01:11:20,020 --> 01:11:17,930
with it for five bucks a month and let's

1653
01:11:21,670 --> 01:11:20,030
cut out all the other [\h__\h] it's half the

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01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:21,680
price of a movie ticket and you get at

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01:11:26,050 --> 01:11:23,450
least an extra five hours of show a

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01:11:27,850 --> 01:11:26,060
month collectively it keeps us stable

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01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:27,860
and it frees me from wasting your time

1658
01:11:32,020 --> 01:11:29,450
with anything but the show you came to

1659
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:32,030
listen to it's really the only way for

1660
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:34,010
an independent one-man show to make it

1661
01:11:38,020 --> 01:11:35,810
and I do what I can so that it's worth

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01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:38,030
your while since we started this I've

1663
01:11:42,010 --> 01:11:40,010
always tried to use the subscriptions to

1664
01:11:44,590 --> 01:11:42,020
improve the podcast and make signups

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01:11:46,510 --> 01:11:44,600
more advantageous it started with just a

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01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:46,520
second hour for the main show but now

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01:11:50,230 --> 01:11:48,170
we've got a nice forum going where

1668
01:11:51,940 --> 01:11:50,240
people can get deeper in conversation

1669
01:11:54,850 --> 01:11:51,950
about the episodes with other listeners

1670
01:11:56,670 --> 01:11:54,860
submit a candidate in the guest request

1671
01:11:58,750 --> 01:11:56,680
thread or share their own personal

1672
01:12:00,820 --> 01:11:58,760
projects to get out of the soul-crushing

1673
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:00,830
nine-to-five cog in the wheel life on

1674
01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:03,440
the entrepreneurs thread the forum in

1675
01:12:06,820 --> 01:12:04,880
the Plus comments they're always the

1676
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:06,830
first places I try to go for listener

1677
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:09,050
engagement but it does get harder as the

1678
01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:11,450
show gets more popular because of that

1679
01:12:14,740 --> 01:12:13,280
there's also a direct messaging feature

1680
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:14,750
that you can use to reach me through the

1681
01:12:19,180 --> 01:12:17,570
plus site also but beyond the forum if

1682
01:12:21,370 --> 01:12:19,190
you like any of the music I've used for

1683
01:12:23,170 --> 01:12:21,380
THC most of it I've hired artists to

1684
01:12:25,420 --> 01:12:23,180
make and I provided all its free

1685
01:12:26,860 --> 01:12:25,430
downloads to plus members too so if you

1686
01:12:29,050 --> 01:12:26,870
like a particular song you've heard

1687
01:12:31,450 --> 01:12:29,060
close the show out recently come get the

1688
01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:31,460
mp3 I should also mention that if you

1689
01:12:35,770 --> 01:12:33,440
don't like the idea of paying $5

1690
01:12:37,930 --> 01:12:35,780
recurring every month I get that you can

1691
01:12:40,300 --> 01:12:37,940
buy three months six months or a year

1692
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:40,310
upfront and just be done with it I have

1693
01:12:43,690 --> 01:12:42,050
plenty of listeners who send checks and

1694
01:12:46,150 --> 01:12:43,700
money orders to the PIO box too

1695
01:12:47,740 --> 01:12:46,160
I try to make it as easy for people as I

1696
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:47,750
can and you can read more about it on

1697
01:12:52,270 --> 01:12:49,730
the signup page also be sure to check

1698
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:52,280
out the FAQ help page on the plus site

1699
01:12:54,940 --> 01:12:53,690
if you have any questions or concerns

1700
01:12:57,010 --> 01:12:54,950
about how to listen to a

1701
01:12:58,870 --> 01:12:57,020
password-protected show on your devices

1702
01:13:01,180 --> 01:12:58,880
I've highlighted a lot of great

1703
01:13:03,220 --> 01:13:01,190
solutions and one of those would be the

1704
01:13:05,770 --> 01:13:03,230
iPhone app that just recently hit the

1705
01:13:07,900 --> 01:13:05,780
Apple App Store a super kind and

1706
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:07,910
talented listener made it for us and you

1707
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:09,770
can use it to stream or download either

1708
01:13:14,890 --> 01:13:11,930
the free or the plus show if you're on

1709
01:13:16,450 --> 01:13:14,900
Android I'd use pocket casts or podcast

1710
01:13:19,060 --> 01:13:16,460
addict and subscribe to the feed

1711
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:19,070
manually that way I also try to throw an

1712
01:13:23,740 --> 01:13:21,770
occasional bonus shows or QA shows and

1713
01:13:25,930 --> 01:13:23,750
I've got a few other weird ideas I might

1714
01:13:27,850 --> 01:13:25,940
get to try out soon but I give you all I

1715
01:13:29,530 --> 01:13:27,860
can for five bucks and I hope you'll at

1716
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:29,540
least give it a shot if you've listened

1717
01:13:33,010 --> 01:13:31,250
to a few free shows and you find them

1718
01:13:34,810 --> 01:13:33,020
unique or valuable I know there's a lot

1719
01:13:36,940 --> 01:13:34,820
of podcasts out there and I'm just one

1720
01:13:38,770 --> 01:13:36,950
of them but if you have any questions

1721
01:13:40,300 --> 01:13:38,780
concerns or comments about any of this

1722
01:13:41,290 --> 01:13:40,310
please get in touch with us at the

1723
01:13:44,530 --> 01:13:41,300
higher side chats

1724
01:13:46,030 --> 01:13:44,540
team @ gmail.com I also wanted to plug

1725
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:46,040
the higher side newsletter I'm gonna be

1726
01:13:49,900 --> 01:13:48,080
putting out totally free for anyone who

1727
01:13:51,850 --> 01:13:49,910
wants to sign up at the main internet

1728
01:13:52,990 --> 01:13:51,860
website for the show the higher side

1729
01:13:54,850 --> 01:13:53,000
chats com

1730
01:13:56,650 --> 01:13:54,860
you can also get on that email list

1731
01:13:58,960 --> 01:13:56,660
through the higher side chats Facebook

1732
01:14:00,430 --> 01:13:58,970
page there's a button there as well but

1733
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,440
the reason I'm doing this is because I

1734
01:14:04,810 --> 01:14:02,960
get tons and tons of emails after a show

1735
01:14:06,940 --> 01:14:04,820
goes up asking me about how I feel about

1736
01:14:08,500 --> 01:14:06,950
a particular guest or topic and the

1737
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:08,510
wrap-up isn't always the best place to

1738
01:14:12,490 --> 01:14:10,490
do that especially if I have anything

1739
01:14:14,350 --> 01:14:12,500
negative to say sometimes the dust needs

1740
01:14:16,810 --> 01:14:14,360
to settle sometimes they need to hear

1741
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:16,820
feedback from you guys first there are a

1742
01:14:19,990 --> 01:14:18,410
lot of factors but I usually have

1743
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:20,000
something to communicate to you and I

1744
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:22,610
just don't get to do it so on the 1st of

1745
01:14:24,610 --> 01:14:22,970
the month

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01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:24,620
I plan to send out a little newsletter

1747
01:14:28,330 --> 01:14:26,510
with my thoughts about the 5 shows the

1748
01:14:30,370 --> 01:14:28,340
previous month and talk to you about

1749
01:14:32,740 --> 01:14:30,380
anything else that's on my mind or

1750
01:14:34,660 --> 01:14:32,750
that's going on and what's probably most

1751
01:14:36,490 --> 01:14:34,670
enticing is that I'm gonna give you some

1752
01:14:38,650 --> 01:14:36,500
insight into at least one guest I have

1753
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:38,660
coming up in the month which people have

1754
01:14:42,850 --> 01:14:40,640
been begging for some posted schedule

1755
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:42,860
for a long time I personally think I'd

1756
01:14:46,630 --> 01:14:44,810
like the surprise but sign up for the

1757
01:14:48,220 --> 01:14:46,640
higher side newsletter it's free it

1758
01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:48,230
comes out on the 1st of the month and I

1759
01:14:52,510 --> 01:14:49,760
won't waste your time with any other

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01:14:54,190 --> 01:14:52,520
emails and that's it I appreciate you

1761
01:14:56,140 --> 01:14:54,200
listening I try to give alternative

1762
01:14:57,580 --> 01:14:56,150
ideas and guests a fair shake on a

1763
01:14:59,709 --> 01:14:57,590
high-quality podcast

1764
01:15:01,810 --> 01:14:59,719
exposed some deep level conspiracies

1765
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:01,820
without the yelling and I hope to offer

1766
01:15:05,649 --> 01:15:03,530
some inspiration that even though the

1767
01:15:07,959 --> 01:15:05,659
system relentlessly suggests you should

1768
01:15:09,790 --> 01:15:07,969
follow their blueprint to mediocrity you

1769
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:09,800
can do your own thing and live a much

1770
01:15:13,959 --> 01:15:12,110
happier life despite all the negativity